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by Bob » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:34 pm
TIRES-post all tire stuff here, the never-ending tire thread--how big can it get? LeeDavis wrote:I'm waiting on tires so I'm not sure. AmericanMotoTire is usually quick but this time I don't have my UPS delivery date yet.
Uh-oh. I just finished with AMT--forever. Will never order from them again. They don't list their tele # so you're forced to email them to find out whats going on. They shorted my rear tire, no communication and no excuse why not. I finally got them by email and it took another week to get it. Nagonna deal with anyone who doesn't list their phone #. Screw those bastards!
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by LeeDavis » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:43 pm
beemerbob wrote:LeeDavis wrote:I'm waiting on tires so I'm not sure. AmericanMotoTire is usually quick but this time I don't have my UPS delivery date yet.
Uh-oh. I just finished with AMT--forever. Will never order from them again. They don't list their tele # so you're forced to email them to find out whats going on. They shorted my rear tire, no communication. I finally got them by email and it took another week to get it. Nagonna deal with anyone who doesn't list their phone #. Screw those bastards!
They usually have plenty of stock shipping out of Charlotte so I get my order next day. However, last order was DRZ front/rear TKC80s and the front tire came from their facility out west and took a week to get here.
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by Bob » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:47 pm
LeeDavis wrote:They usually have plenty of stock shipping out of Charlotte so I get my order next day. However, last order was DRZ front/rear TKC80s and the front tire came from their facility out west and took a week to get here.
Yup--they shipped my rear from AZ also. My guess is they have cash-flow problems and are not paying on time to some of the distributors they drop-ship from, so their credit has been cut off. Too many red flags---no communication, no shipment, no excuses, no telephone...but they sure as shit billed my Visa for both tires the same day I placed the order! Won't surprise me to see them go away soon. EDIT: Just checked the mfg date on the PR3 I just got from them--Jan 26, 2012. So its 2 yrs 8 mos old. I thought it looked kinda shopworn.
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by Broz » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:42 pm
How much $ for the PR3. I have been using Motorcyclesuperstore they are pretty quick and have a warehouse in KY I think. My rear is looking like I only have one good ride left on it. Damn I just changed out tires a month ago trying to finish off this tire I had on before my trip in June. I'm thinking Friday for me. Broz
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by PirateRiderBen » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:48 pm
I uses jakewilson.com for my last set of tires. Quick ship and good price.
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by Bob » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:28 pm
Broz wrote:How much $ for the PR3. I have been using Motorcyclesuperstore they are pretty quick and have a warehouse in KY I think. Broz
$149 from AMT compared to $177 elsewhere. But I won't be dealing with them any longer. 
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by Broz » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:01 pm
That's a good price......if you order long enough before you might need it. I'm thinking of giving the Metzler a try around here. I know it ant last like it did on the trip but if I get half that will beat the Michelin's.
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by 007 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:12 pm
Metzlers have this awful problem of sliding around and poor feedback. Buy q3s and you won't be sorry. I have a couple pilot power fronts I won't be using if anyone is interested. Brand new. Mfg dates in 2013
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by Broz » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:59 pm
What are q3's? Okay you convinced me to not go w the Metzler for our style of riding but they are a good touring tire.
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by PirateRiderBen » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:50 pm
Q3 is dunlops race/street tire. Like a pilot power. Soft and grippy but wear quicker than the sport touring tires. I've been very pleased with my Michelin Pilot Road 2's.
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by yamadog » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:48 am
Sorry to hear you guys are having trouble with AMT. I ordered a new Conti-motion rear Monday and it was on my bike Tuesday nite! You know you can't beat their prices but if you don't get service, oh well. I did a price per mile comparisioin on Conti's vs PR2's. Pr2's lasted 5100 miles vs 2500 for Conti's. PR2 cpm is .057 cents and Contii is .029 if you change the front everyother time. If both Conti's are changed, it is .051 cents. My rear wears twice as fast as the front. I know y'all have different wear as some are more agressive than me but these are "my" numbers. Just thought I'd put it out there. Thursday or Friday is fine for me.
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by PirateRiderBen » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:08 am
Have you ever ridden a conti-motion?
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by Ed » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:24 am
yamadog wrote:Sorry to hear you guys are having trouble with AMT. You know you can't beat their prices
Just put a PR3 rear on the Bandit last week, and priced both AMT and Competition Accessories; FWIW CompAcc was twenty-nine cents cheaper (yay!) and I had it the following day. Date code is 5013, coulda been better but certainly not "bad".
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by Bob » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:27 am
yamadog wrote:... Pr2's lasted 5100 miles vs 2500 for Conti's. PR2 cpm is .057 cents and Contii is .029 if you change the front everyother time. If both Conti's are changed, it is .051 cents. My rear wears twice as fast as the front. I know y'all have different wear as some are more agressive than me but these are "my" numbers..
Jim, what does a PR2 rear cost for you vs. a Conti rear? What size tire is that? Not sure I understand the math.... 
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by Marc K » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:35 am
If anyone need tires from Comp Acc - they are in my backyard - I'll pick them up and bring'em to you for a small 12 pack ! 
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by Ed » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:39 am
Marc K wrote:If anyone need tires from Comp Acc - they are in my backyard - I'll pick them up and bring'em to you for a small 12 pack ! 
When I can have them on my porch the next day for 29ยข ~? ....hmm, let me think about it 
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by yamadog » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:51 am
The math is simple. It cost x dollars for a set of tires and you get x miles on them before you replace them. If a set cost $148 and you ride 2600 miles, it is at a cost of .056 cents per mile. If you pay $286 per set and you ride 5000 miles before you replace them, it's .057 cents per mile. If you need to replace only the rear tire half as often with the $148 set, well you do the math. My head hurts. Set Size= 120/70/17 frontand 180/55/17 rear. I'm just saying that it costs about the same to run the much softer Conti-motions with better "stick" than the PR2's that are harder and are a little slick for the heavy FJR. My preference.
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by Bob » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:04 am
yamadog wrote:The math is simple. It cost x dollars for a set of tires and you get x miles ......
Well, I didn't really want more math, lol. I just wanted to know what you pay for a rear Conti and rear PR2? 
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by yamadog » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:53 pm
$87 for the Conti rear and $168 for the PR2 rear.
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by Bob » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:10 pm
yamadog wrote:$87 for the Conti rear and $168 for the PR2 rear.
OK, now I got it. So the cost per mile is virtually the same for the rear, $.035 for the Conti and $.033 for the PR2. I was reading your first post as saying the CPI for the Conti was about 1/2 that of the PR2. Well, if it handles THAT much better, I guess maybe its worth changing the tire twice as often. But I wouldn't wanna do it. 
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by yamadog » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:57 pm
Changing tires twice as often is no biggy. 1 hour per tire. FWIW, the last set of tires (Conti-Motions) I ordered from Compacc and it took 13 days to get them!!!! I went to Rock Hill store for them and they did not have them in stock, sooooo... That's why I tried American Motorcycle Tire this time. Fast and cheaper than Compacc. I hope I don't have issues like you had, Bob. Bummer.
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by Marc K » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:48 pm
Conti Motions - I do like the feel - they run a true track in a corner - but I'm getting 1800-2000K per rear tire. But they are cheap ! Angel GTs over the winter.
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by Bob » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:16 pm
Marc K wrote:Conti Motions - I do like the feel - they run a true track in a corner - but I'm getting 1800-2000K per rear tire. But they are cheap ! Angel GTs over the winter.
Jeez, I would be doing good to get 1500 miles then. This bike eats rear tires like crazy. I think the rear tires on the GS's prior to the water-cooled 2013 model are under-sized for the weight of the bike. They increased the size for the 2013's but the new bike doesn't weigh any more.
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by yamadog » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:48 pm
It's been a while but the tire questions keep coming. Has enyone tried the Dunlap SportMax D222 Roadsmart II tire?
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by Ed » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:32 pm
Don't know that it was a "D222" specifically, but I have run the Roadsmart II rear (190/55 17) on the Bandit.
Mileage was good, and it never slipped wet or dry; it was clearly unhappy being paired with a PR3 front (and yet, just fine with a Diablo front) so I pulled it a little before its' time.
Also had the 1st generation Roadsmart rear on my Hayabusa, and had good service from it.
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by Brick » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:24 am
I haven't run any Dunlaps for a long long time.
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